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by DNS
Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Tulsi Gabbard
Replies: 38
Views: 3076

Re: Tulsi Gabbard

At the debate last night, Harris and Gabbard got into another fight. Harris claimed that Gabbard is really a Republican, a friend of Steve Bannon, and that she attacked Obama during his whole presidency. I don't recall her attacking Obama, but maybe she did. If so, it was probably about all the dron...
by DNS
Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

The Horseshoe Theory is fine. It is who or what that defines what is left, right, extreme left and right that appears to be the issue. The Horseshoe Theory simply refers to the extremes starting to look alike, for example in the way that both become authoritarian. As Seth noted, perhaps the horsesho...
by DNS
Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Tulsi Gabbard
Replies: 38
Views: 3076

Re: Tulsi Gabbard

I find it funny that you say she is rejected because she is a centrist. I think she is rejected because she is cast and perceived as an extremist. But people are throwing the horseshoe model because I think it confuses everyone and dare support someone who is cast as an extremist on TV. You're prob...
by DNS
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: guerilla gardener in South Central LA
Replies: 4
Views: 51

guerilla gardener in South Central LA

[In South Central Los Angeles] "the drive-thrus are killing more people than the drive-bys." Ron Finley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzZzZ_qpZ4w This talk is about 6 years old, so some of you have probably seen it already. I found it when googling for that quote, wanting to see who originally ca...
by DNS
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Tulsi Gabbard
Replies: 38
Views: 3076

Re: Tulsi Gabbard

She is the only candidate for POTUS or virtually in politics at all who would stand up to the Saudis. She's the only one who recognizes the Saudis play a huge role in promoting terrorism. The Saudis probably have the most fundamentalist madrasas. 16 of 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudis. The Saudis are d...
by DNS
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Tulsi Gabbard
Replies: 38
Views: 3076

Re: Tulsi Gabbard

fwiw wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:48 am
Here she comments on the endless smears that get thrown at her. It's hilarious.
She seems to get attacked by leftists more than those on the right. Perhaps due to being a centrist, pragmatist, and anti-war. She's a Democrat in a Democrat state; strange world we live in.
by DNS
Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

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The real threat to democracies come from the extremists -- the extreme right and extreme left. The extreme left too, as they tolerate the intolerant and allow them more opportunities to take over.
by DNS
Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

This may throw a wrench in the works of the horseshoe theory https://dharmawheel.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=428&p=10804#p10804 Nah, if you look at all the nations run by centrists, they are democracies. If you look at all the nations run by extremists, they are most un-democratic. Not that centrists ...
by DNS
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Get involved!
Topic: (Dis)enchantment with Facebook
Replies: 15
Views: 2101

Re: (Dis)enchantment with Facebook

Another interesting video from Maher about facebook. He does his usual trash-talk of facebook, but also makes some points about free speech.
(I think this video will stay up, since it's from his website.)

by DNS
Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

It's interesting that whenever the topic of the political compass comes up (here and also at DWT and DWM), most of us come out strongly on the libertarian scale (small l). We have our differences on the economic scale, but we all tend to agree that social liberties are good.

:thumb:
by DNS
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

In the Horseshoe Model, the two extremes are both authoritarian so if it were to be overlaid upon the political compass, it would be vertically flipped with the pointy ends up, not down. The case in point here is Hitler, who was a national socialist (I.e. Nazi) but is perceived by many as right win...
by DNS
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

Without doing the test again, roughly just to the left of where the L is on the Libertarian Right quadrant. Me too. :thumb: I found my results from 2015 when I took the quiz, don't think there are any changes since then. Economic Left/Right: 1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97 my chart.png
by DNS
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: POTUS 2020, part 1
Replies: 93
Views: 7128

Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

I just saw this on the political compass website:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

Based on my political views, it looks like I should be supporting Williamsom, not Gabbard. :tongue:
(I'm center-right, non-authoritarian)

At least Gabbard is close to that position, though.
by DNS
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

The problem with the horseshoe theory is that although it describes the reality of the extremes becoming somewhat similar, it doesn't describe one's total political views. For example, one can be left or or right on economics but there is also another spectrum, that of the degree of authoritarianism...
by DNS
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Horseshoe Theory
Replies: 36
Views: 517

Re: Horseshoe Theory

Kim O'Hara wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:23 pm
I think the model actually tries to describe what's going on rather than to encourage change.
Correct, it is just describing the reality, not suggesting which position is best or encourage which way to go.
by DNS
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: POTUS 2020, part 1
Replies: 93
Views: 7128

Re: POTUS 2020, part 1

Here's a list of all the things Michael Bloomberg banned as mayor of NYC:
https://gizmodo.com/the-complete-list-o ... 1490476691

One of the things on the list:
Large sodas > 16oz.

All a person has to do is order 2 or 3 medium sized sodas to get around that. :lol:
by DNS
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 14258

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

Now in the vast majority of capitalist enterprises, there is no democracy at the workplace. Is it a good thing? Or can we do better? That is because in a private, non-public, not traded on stock market type company, it is typically an individual capitalist who bought or started the business, who pu...
by DNS
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 14258

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

I did notice that when capitalism fails you chalk it up to corruption and cronyism but when socialism fails, it's never because of corruption and cronyism but it's because socialism is rotten to its core. Again, not at all, I admitted there is corruption and cronyism on all sides. My point was the ...
by DNS
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:42 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 14258

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

Okay, then as I thought, it's just a disagreement about what we consider to be which countries are capitalist and which are socialist. It has nothing to do with any bias from me. Yes, virtually all nations are mixed economies, but their means of production are privately owned, thus, capitalist. You ...
by DNS
Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 14258

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

Here you're sliding into the bias fwiw accused you of, i.e., saying that it's socialism when it fails, capitalism when it succeeds. Not at all, I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Look at the link above of former communist and socialist states. They all failed, they don't even exist any m...