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by mikenz66
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 13741

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

Thanks for the clarification, David. It seems you are using a fairly narrow definition of "socialism", which is fine. However, many would describe the welfare systems in Europe, the UK, and various other counties, such as mine, as "socialist" (e.g. some of the right-wing politicians in those countri...
by mikenz66
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:42 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 13741

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

SethRich wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:31 am
Greetings,

Not to answer for DNS, but this is a technical definition for socialism...
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Thanks, that definition would make it hard to find many socialist countries today...

:heart:
Mike
by mikenz66
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Should Capitalism be outgrown?
Replies: 180
Views: 13741

Re: Should Capitalism be outgrown?

Hi David, It still had trade; trade between farmers, merchants, private ownership, bankers, etc. It certainly wasn't socialism nor communism. I'm unclear what your definition of socialism is. Most Western countries (with the notable exception of the USA) have public health care (to a greater or less...
by mikenz66
Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Hi Bundokji, Well, I agree, but I think you may be confusing expert statements by scientists with political arguments. [Of course, the person making the political argument might be a scientist, just as they might be a businessperson or a lawyer, but in that context their primary role is "politician"...
by mikenz66
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Hi Budokji, Thanks for your thoughtful post. The problem is that without the interpretations and modelling, data are just numbers and essentially useless. Apart from in very simple cases, it's not possible to separate the data and modelling in science. That's actually what makes it science in the fi...
by mikenz66
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

I don't want to make generalizations, but how many scientists provided data without any kind of interpretations or associations with perception of " risk "? And why the risks associated with climate change are so different from the uncertainty surrounding human existence everyday? The problem is th...
by mikenz66
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

4. Those who don't agree with you, and try to persuade others that there is a problem, are "alarmists". No, those who use alarm as a vehicle to promote their climate agendas are alarmists. I have not conflated "the science" with "the alarmism" in this topic, even though others have. As for keeping ...
by mikenz66
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

This rational ambivalence appears to be something that climate alarmists find very alarming, ... I'm finding you difficult to follow. Is your argument the following? 1. You don't understand the technicalities; 2. You don't want to understand the technicalities; 3. Since the whole thing is just too ...
by mikenz66
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Greetings Mike, Just because these various models are not useful for you, personally, to make decisions is beside the point. Beside what point? (Keeping in mind this is the topic where climate change is discussed through the lens of politics and activism). Kind regards. :candle: Just because someth...
by mikenz66
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

In contrast, I don't see any meaningful decisions I can make as an individual based on climate modelling, accurate or otherwise. The utility for most individuals is zero. You're right. The utility for the personal decisions of most individuals of most complex modelling is zero. Such as the modellin...
by mikenz66
Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Greetings Mike, I think the issue of climate change has more to do with authenticity (or lack of) than with science. It is an issue of values more than with abstract ideas about what might happen in the future. You really think that the people working on climate modelling are idiots? No, whether in...
by mikenz66
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

I think the issue of climate change has more to do with authenticity (or lack of) than with science. It is an issue of values more than with abstract ideas about what might happen in the future. You really think that the people working on climate modelling are idiots? The measurements and calculati...
by mikenz66
Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

No, whether intentional or accidental, that's another strawman. What I was speaking about was experientiality and the greater personal connection to that which can be directly experienced, versus that which is derived from the papañca-saññā-sankhā of another. I think this is the crux of the matter!...
by mikenz66
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

... The link you gave hit a pay wall, by the way. I had a quick look but I'm not familiar with that particular site. What I would say, though, is that there is a big difference between <scare quote> censorship </scare quote> and " not wasting ones time ". My colleagues who work in certain fields (s...
by mikenz66
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Greetings Mike, What would be concerning to me would be if the percentage was zero, as that would indicate that noone was challenging the consensus, which would mean that the field was stagnant. Agreed. Yet, despite the fact that... Climate modelling, along with many other public safety concerns, s...
by mikenz66
Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:01 am
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Climate change - politics and activism
Replies: 179
Views: 14228

Re: Climate change - politics and activism

Greetings Kim, Our timeframe for escaping climate catastrophe is now on the order of ten years. If we haven't cut global emissions by 50% before 2030 (both of those are ballpark figures) we will have so many other problems that the system will likely collapse. That's all very dramatic. :console: I'...
by mikenz66
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Environmental Dharma
Topic: Connection to Country
Replies: 7
Views: 421

Re: Connection to Country

Thanks for the thoughtful posts, Paul. I certainly agree that having local connections is important, and it's perhaps a lack of that sense of belonging that has lead to some of the crazy thinking that has lead to tragedies such as our local terrorist attack six months ago (and a number since that cl...
by mikenz66
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Social Justice Dharma
Topic: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths
Replies: 12
Views: 599

Re: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths

Hi David, It has worked somewhat well in the U.S.; see for example the election of Barack Obama, a record number of minorities and women in recent years even though the country as a whole is still something like around 70% white (European-ancestry). Of course there is still some racism and discrimin...
by mikenz66
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Social Justice Dharma
Topic: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths
Replies: 12
Views: 599

Re: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths

Thanks for your post, Mike. Just one thought ... ...However, he may have a point about secularisation. Anglo-Saxons/Celtic society has become more and more secular, which may have contributed to a lack of identity, and therefore confidence, that lead parts of it (across the political spectrum) down...
by mikenz66
Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:04 am
Forum: Social Justice Dharma
Topic: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths
Replies: 12
Views: 599

Re: Minogue, Multiculturalism and an appreciation of more Noble Truths

My preference is not tribalism, nor multiculturalism. I like the melting pot, it avoids both extremes of identity politics and racism. See this famous clip from Morgan Freeman. I'm not sure what the rest of the context for that clip is, but I would say that sometimes these arguments along the lines...