fwiw wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:08 pm
I finally took the time to look at these videos. IN the first one the grandmotherly woman kicked a gas grenade towards the police.....this is agressive action against the police and in crowd control agressive actions towards the police are subject to police intervention so no one should be surprised that the police took action....however it didn't look like she was significantly injured.....and then the man (who is one of the stars in the other video) made an aggressive gesture towards the police when in close quarters with them and again no one should be surprised that the police took action after his agressive movemnent....and again it doesn't appear that he was significantly injured in that he got up and then went and made more aggressive movements towards a group of police which can be seen in the background.
I think the second video starts with the aggressive action seen in the background of the previous video only from a closer perspective of a different reporter. I think the second video is just a continuation of the first one with a change of camera angle between the two. The man continues his beligerent and aggressive action and the police continue to take action. It does not seem that he was significantly injured in that in the end he is standing and seems to be sound of limb with no blood evident.
So, these two videos are really just one incident I think. If this is the worst done then I would say that worse things happen at pre-adolescent football matches from time to time.
Really this is weak evidence of police "brutality".....it really seems that the police were showing some degree of restraint as indicated by the one police officer shrugging towards the demonstrator unagressively and evidently communicating a reply as to why they took action....the shrug was probably..."well, she kicked the gas grenade into our formation which is disruptive and aggressive so we did what prudent crowd control measure would call for....a non-lethal and non injuring response to clearly show that any aggressive action by anyone will be met with deterence."
Seems to me like fairly reasonable (if not totally reasonable) crowd control measures....
Also, it seems like these two protesters were sort of emboldened to act by the presence of the cameras....it gave the cameras some sort of 'brutality' which could be propogandized by the instigators.
I'm really surprised at how uneventful those videos are.....I really expected something way more majorly to appear.
I think that these are the kinds of actions by the police which were applauded with a standing ovation in the french lower house of representatives.