Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

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Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Sat May 09, 2020 10:23 am

Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?
I always wonder where those billions of donations from billionaires go.
Bill Gates used to be one of my heroes until I watched the following video.

Bill Gates is continuing the work of Monsanto', Vandana Shiva tells FRANCE 24


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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by Miorita » Sat May 09, 2020 12:45 pm

Yess, I remember her.
She was appearing in this documentary: Blue Gold: World Water Wars.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by fwiw » Sat May 09, 2020 2:00 pm

Step 1: falsely claim that philanthropic charities could replace government-controlled redistribution, as libertarians love doing:
"Libertarian Charity Is Key To Defeating Statism"
https://beinglibertarian.com/libertaria ... g-statism/

Step 2: Get your tax break for donating to "charities"

Step 3: Donate to "charities" that actually serve to further rig the economy and brainwash people into thinking for example that libertarianism, the philosophy of ultimate selfishness (see Ayn Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness) represents humanity's best

In other words, paint yourself as a philanthropist even as you are working to defend your own selfish interests.

Good that some are waking up to the truth


I know Adam has proven himself to be unreliable on some topics, but I think he is at least good for sparking a conversation



Also, Redacted Tonight addressed the issue in the context of the Silicon Valley in 2018:
... just my opinion, for what it's worth

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by DNS » Sat May 09, 2020 3:59 pm

In some cases, yes, I'm sure it is a hoax. Some of you might remember how Bill Gates was in hot water for anti-trust violations regarding his Microsoft in the 1990s. He was described at being at a 'cross-roads' in life where he had to make a decision -- continue as a ruthless CEO, amassing wealth and fighting the competition, the government investigations against his company or become a philanthropist, improve his image and get the government off his back. He chose philanthropist and sure enough the government did drop their investigations over anti-trust issues of his company. Since then he has completely adopted a globalist agenda and several conspiracy theories have developed around him.

Yes, the billionaires give to the charities of their choice, which some would argue may not be the best use of those funds, but the middle class and poor do the same things, albeit with less funds. Middle classes and the poor give to their churches of their choice and other charities of their choice. A lot of the super rich give to the favorite universities. And yes, some get their names on some buildings to satisfy their egos, but the funds are often used to help poor and disadvantaged students to get scholarships and grants for their tuition and fees.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hoax?

Post by Nicholas » Sat May 09, 2020 4:24 pm

The very rich (or anyone for that matter) posing as altruists is an ancient situation.
Bodhidharma bodhisattva was asked by a wealthy Chinese Buddhist how much merit he accrued from building roads & shelters and his many other 'good works'. Bodhidharma said your motive was a self-centered intention to be praised & thought well of, therefor you gained zero good karma.
May all seek, find and follow the Path of Buddhas.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Sat May 09, 2020 10:25 pm

fwiw wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 2:00 pm
Step 1: falsely claim that philanthropic charities could replace government-controlled redistribution, as libertarians love doing:
"Libertarian Charity Is Key To Defeating Statism"
https://beinglibertarian.com/libertaria ... g-statism/

Step 2: Get your tax break for donating to "charities"

Step 3: Donate to "charities" that actually serve to further rig the economy and brainwash people into thinking for example that libertarianism, the philosophy of ultimate selfishness (see Ayn Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness) represents humanity's best

In other words, paint yourself as a philanthropist even as you are working to defend your own selfish interests.

Good that some are waking up to the truth


I know Adam has proven himself to be unreliable on some topics, but I think he is at least good for sparking a conversation



Also, Redacted Tonight addressed the issue in the context of the Silicon Valley in 2018:
Hell!!
I have seen only the tip of the iceberg!
:jumping:

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Sat May 09, 2020 10:33 pm

DNS wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 3:59 pm
In some cases, yes, I'm sure it is a hoax. Some of you might remember how Bill Gates was in hot water for anti-trust violations regarding his Microsoft in the 1990s. He was described at being at a 'cross-roads' in life where he had to make a decision -- continue as a ruthless CEO, amassing wealth and fighting the competition, the government investigations against his company or become a philanthropist, improve his image and get the government off his back. He chose philanthropist and sure enough the government did drop their investigations over anti-trust issues of his company. Since then he has completely adopted a globalist agenda and several conspiracy theories have developed around him.

Yes, the billionaires give to the charities of their choice, which some would argue may not be the best use of those funds, but the middle class and poor do the same things, albeit with less funds. Middle classes and the poor give to their churches of their choice and other charities of their choice. A lot of the super rich give to the favorite universities. And yes, some get their names on some buildings to satisfy their egos, but the funds are often used to help poor and disadvantaged students to get scholarships and grants for their tuition and fees.
Agree.
I can relate to this.
In my village temple, the monk wanted to build a 300 steps to go up to the shrine room.
Each person donated to build one step, and the monk engraved the name of the doner on the concrete.
This method of fundraising is very common in Sri Lankan temples.
End of the day what matters is the footpath is made.
But what these Billionaires are doing something completely different.
It appears they do nothing except do more harm to people.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by Charbel » Sun May 10, 2020 3:57 am

Part 1


Part 2


Part 3 soon

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Sun May 10, 2020 5:04 am

Thank you, Charbel.
But can't we separate a smell of a dead rat from a smell of a rose?
I am sure he is aware of his critics.
Has he ever confronted with these allegations? Aren't their any friends here for Mr. Gates?


So far my observation of Coronavirus is that Singapore is successfully managing the Coronavirus with the least death rate with higher percapita infections. Perhaps the answer to this pandemic is good health care, not a vaccine. But I have noted that we all are jumping this vaccine bandwagon including SarathW. :(
Did Mr.Gates ever attempt to reply to his critics?
Am I witnessing another case of "all publicity is good publicity"?

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by Charbel » Sun May 10, 2020 5:54 am

Mr. Gates? :jedi:

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SethRich » Sun May 10, 2020 1:11 pm

Greetings,
SarathW wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:04 am
Aren't their any friends here for Mr. Gates?
No.

Kind regards.

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:candle: "...his name was Seth Rich..."

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Mon May 11, 2020 4:15 am

Charbel wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:54 am
Mr. Gates? :jedi:
I have my Metta for Mr. Gates.
He seems to be a very unhappy man irrespective of all his wealth.
I hope he understands some Dhamma.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by Charbel » Mon May 11, 2020 7:38 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 4:15 am
I have my Metta for Mr. Gates.
It is reported Mr Gates was expelled from India because his medical experiments harmed 100s of 1000s of Indian children. Click on the video and listen for 4 minutes :|


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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Mon May 18, 2020 10:04 pm

Wow!!!!
I am glad I asked this question. Now I can see why Bill Gates seems so unhappy.

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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by SarathW » Thu May 21, 2020 11:42 pm

It seems many Gates haters out there.


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Re: Is Billionaire philanthropy a hox?

Post by Miorita » Fri May 22, 2020 2:26 am

They removed the video because they have their agenda.
Nevertheless, human endeavor is always to appreciate.
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