guerilla gardener in South Central LA

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guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by DNS » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:54 pm

[In South Central Los Angeles] "the drive-thrus are killing more people than the drive-bys."
Ron Finley



This talk is about 6 years old, so some of you have probably seen it already. I found it when googling for that quote, wanting to see who originally came up with that line.

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Re: guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by SarathW » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:55 am

In my opinion, trying to grow your own food is very expensive and wastes a lot of resources unless you are a profession, Gardner.
By the way, I am a failed Gardner.
To grow your own food you have to have the knowhow. You can't be a gardener by watching Youtube videos.

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Re: guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by Kim O'Hara » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:51 am

SarathW wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:55 am
In my opinion, trying to grow your own food is very expensive and wastes a lot of resources unless you are a profession, Gardner.
By the way, I am a failed Gardner.
To grow your own food you have to have the knowhow. You can't be a gardener by watching Youtube videos.
It's easy to grow some of your own food, even if it's just a few herbs, but it's very hard to grow enough of your own food to save on shopping.

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Re: guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by SethRich » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm

Greetings,
SarathW wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:55 am
In my opinion, trying to grow your own food is very expensive and wastes a lot of resources unless you are a profession, Gardner.
By the way, I am a failed Gardner.
To grow your own food you have to have the knowhow. You can't be a gardener by watching Youtube videos.
Agreed. Specialisation of labor and farming via economies of scale is a more efficient practice in terms of resources.

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Re: guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by Kim O'Hara » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:01 pm

SethRich wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm
... Specialisation of labor and farming via economies of scale is a more efficient practice in terms of resources.

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That's a very narrowly economic view of things, Paul, and it's bad economics at that.
When applied to food production, your economies of scale and division of labour lead to monocultures dependent on fertilisers and pesticides, reducing species diversity at best and leading to extinctions at worst. Hybrid seeds lock farmers into dependence on monopoly suppliers who then exploit the farmers. Mechanisation of broad-acre farming drives families off the land, killing country towns and sending country people to the cities for work = and they have no training for any city work.
All these are "externalities" of course :toilet: but they are all genuine negatives.

And if we leave farming, as such, out of the debate for a moment, we can see a lot of non-economic positives in (limited, domestic) food production in cities and towns - and, for that matter, in farmers' own kitchen gardens. Let's start with the health and fitness benefits of regular gentle exercise, continue with the community-building which comes with neighbours swapping excess produce, toss in the warm glow of achievement and independence ... all good, and it doesn't matter whether the gardener could have saved a dollar by buying his carrots in the supermarket.

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Re: guerilla gardener in South Central LA

Post by SarathW » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:38 am

SethRich wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm
Greetings,
SarathW wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:55 am
In my opinion, trying to grow your own food is very expensive and wastes a lot of resources unless you are a profession, Gardner.
By the way, I am a failed Gardner.
To grow your own food you have to have the knowhow. You can't be a gardener by watching Youtube videos.
Agreed. Specialisation of labor and farming via economies of scale is a more efficient practice in terms of resources.

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The problem now is overproduction.
That leads to overconsumption and waste.
The hardest is to deliver the product to the consumer.

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