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Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Tue May 12, 2020 3:17 am

How are the sexual allegations against Joe Biden any less credible than the allegations leftists and the media made against Bret Kavanaugh? Why does Biden get a free pass, simply for being a Democrat?

Does anyone remember the newly elected Democratic congresswoman who walked out of Trump's State of the Union this year just for mentioning Bret Kavanaugh?

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Miorita » Tue May 12, 2020 4:04 am

Joe Biden does not fit in your line of wealthy, careless, and proud to ignorant Republican.
What you try here is to shape Biden to fit your Republican MO. It's not working. It's slander.
His wife, Jill, will put your eye lights out before you succeed. :twisted:

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by DNS » Tue May 12, 2020 4:55 am

Presto Kensho wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:17 am
How are the sexual allegations against Joe Biden any less credible than the allegations leftists and the media made against Bret Kavanaugh? Why does Biden get a free pass, simply for being a Democrat?
Both parties do the double-standard thing. If a Republican leader gets accused of sexual harassment, allegations, the Republicans run to his defense. If a Democrat leader gets accused of sexual harassment, allegations, the Democrats run to his defense.

It should just be on the merits of the case and the evidence, not have anything to do with the political parties, but I don't see the above methods changing anytime soon.

Bill Maher was defending Al Franken, stating the accuser was a Republican (implying that she was biased due to having a different political ideology). It shouldn't matter what the accuser's political beliefs are either.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Tue May 12, 2020 5:00 am

The difference here is that the left largely supported the MeToo movement's rejection of due process rights for the sexually accused while the right didn't.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by SethRich » Tue May 12, 2020 10:16 am

Greetings,
Presto Kensho wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:00 am
The difference here is that the left largely supported the MeToo movement's rejection of due process rights for the sexually accused while the right didn't.
Agreed. "Believe women" meant believe women whether or not they're telling the truth... A dangerous precedent that most are no longer willing to uphold when the shoe is on the other foot.



Clearly some people weren't too happy at her abandonment of double standards...



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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Tue May 12, 2020 5:41 pm

Please keep in mind that we should take allegations of sexual misconduct seriously. However, American citizens still have the right to due process, whether they are celebrities or not. The accused are innocent until proven guilty.

Kavanaugh showed indignation during his confirmation hearings because his due process rights were under attack. People's careers and reputations shouldn't be ruined over unproven events from decades ago, especially when the accuser can't remember when or where they allegedly occurred.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by DNS » Tue May 12, 2020 7:12 pm

Presto Kensho wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:41 pm
Please keep in mind that we should take allegations of sexual misconduct seriously. However, American citizens still have the right to due process, whether they are celebrities or not. The accused are innocent until proven guilty.
I agree. :thumb:

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Wed May 13, 2020 1:42 am

If Biden's accuser doesn't retract her story, this will be a very dirty political race, with sexual allegations made by both sides.
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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by SethRich » Wed May 13, 2020 2:07 am

Greetings,
Presto Kensho wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:42 am
If Biden's accuser doesn't recant her story, this will be a very dirty political race, with sexual allegations made by both sides.
Why would she recant her "story" (your word) when there is evidence she acted upon it in the 90's?

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Wed May 13, 2020 3:11 am

SethRich wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 2:07 am
Greetings,
Presto Kensho wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:42 am
If Biden's accuser doesn't recant her story, this will be a very dirty political race, with sexual allegations made by both sides.
Why would she recant her "story" (your word) when there is evidence she acted upon it in the 90's?

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Because of sexual allegations that can be made and have been made against Donald Trump. The biggest reason why the MeToo movement started in the first place was in response to having Trump elected as president, despite multiple allegations of sexual assault.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by SethRich » Wed May 13, 2020 3:59 am

Greetings,
SethRich wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 2:07 am
Why would she recant her "story" (your word) when there is evidence she acted upon it in the 90's?
Presto Kensho wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:11 am
Because of sexual allegations that can be made and have been made against Donald Trump.
OK. :?
Presto Kensho wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:11 am
The biggest reason why the MeToo movement started in the first place was in response to having Trump elected as president, despite multiple allegations of sexual assault.
Well, yes, it was about weaponizing allegations for political advantage, such was the climate at the time, as normalized by the grievance mongering of Social Justice Warriors.

By and large, people have become wise to that modus operandi now... even those involved with the #MeToo movement - e.g. Rose McGowan above.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Fri May 15, 2020 3:55 pm

I see Joe Biden and Donald Trump as both morally reprehensible people. The only reason I would favor Trump is Biden's extremism on abortion, though I will vote for neither.

Maybe Biden is getting a free pass on sexual assault from the left and the media because he flip-flopped to support repealing the Hyde amendment. As long as he supports taxpayer funding for abortion, they will look the other way.

And maybe the reason why leftists and the media wanted to take down Kavanaugh is because they didn't want a pro-life judge, whether he was innocent or not.

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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by lyndon taylor » Sat May 16, 2020 6:42 am

don't know how accurate this link is, but if true, Reade has serious credibility issues

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB149i2D
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Re: Joe Biden & MeToo Movement

Post by Presto Kensho » Sat May 16, 2020 7:04 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:42 am
don't know how accurate this link is, but if true, Reade has serious credibility issues

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB149i2D
Bret Kavanaugh's accuser couldn't remember when or where her alleged assault took place, and the witnesses she named couldn't corroborate her account, and yet the media and the left promoted her allegation anyway.

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