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reiun
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Covid

Post by reiun » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:17 pm

WHO Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Dashboard

https://covid19.who.int/?gclid=CjwKCAjw ... gMQAvD_BwE

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Re: Covid

Post by mikenz66 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:49 pm

This graphical approach (new cases vs total) can be useful for visualising the trends.
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

It's easy to see which countries managed to contain the spread (dipping down) and which didn't. Notably US, Brazil, Russia, India, Chile...

Unfortunately, a lot of rebounds are happening.

This side has daily positive tests, which is also a useful way of looking at it.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Here's a comparison of daily cases between New Zealand and Hongkong, Taiwan, Australia, and Singapore.



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Re: Covid

Post by reiun » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:08 pm

mikenz66 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:49 pm
This side has daily positive tests, which is also a useful way of looking at it.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Yes, and also highlighting the Recovery number.

Useful, too, to see the Total per Million Population (which, unfortunately, the U.S. leads). No surprise there. Anyone can see Trump lacks basic compassion, and so to him the death total is probably no more than just some number, or big spike in a graph, and therefore not much worth addressing.

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Re: Covid

Post by SarathW » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:08 pm

I use world meter for my information.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Re: Covid

Post by SethRich » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Greetings,
mikenz66 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:49 pm
Here's a comparison of daily cases between New Zealand and Hongkong, Taiwan, Australia, and Singapore.
Interesting. I heard yesterday that Australia has had less "flu + coronavirus" deaths so far this year than this time last year.

So as least in our respective countries, the headline issue is about the inconvenience and the economy, moreso than about illness and death.

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Re: Covid

Post by reiun » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:26 am

SethRich wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:42 pm
Greetings,
Interesting. I heard yesterday that Australia has had less "flu + coronavirus" deaths so far this year than this time last year.
Of course, this time last year, coronavirus had not even broken out yet, so your assertion makes no sense.

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Re: Covid

Post by SethRich » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:02 am

Greetings reiun,

Actually it makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry if a rudimentary grasp of mathematics (such as adding zero to another number) is beyond your comprehension.

You are also fake news on the grounds that I wrote coronavirus, and that COVID19 is not the first coronavirus in history. SARS, for example, is a coronavirus.

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Re: Covid

Post by reiun » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:59 am

Hilarious! Others should read verbatim, nothing extra.

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Re: Covid

Post by mikenz66 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:00 am

SethRich wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:42 pm
So as least in our respective countries, the headline issue is about the inconvenience and the economy, moreso than about illness and death.
Yes, in Australia and New Zealand we were lucky to be relatively isolated, and that we shut down inward travel quickly enough so that very little got into the community and we didn't have the overflowing hospitals that the US, UK, etc had/have. The time lag, the obviously overflowing hospitals in Italy, UK, NYC, etc, and the fact that our scientists (such as Juliet, whose tweet I linked to) were listened to was crucial.

The amazing performances are countries with a lot of traffic in and out of China, like Taiwan, who managed containment without too much hardship in general:
Amid all NZ’s Covid back-patting, let’s not forget the country that did it first
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/17-06- ... -it-first/
Their isolation, testing, tracing was superb.

Here our testing and tracing is still not great, so there are worries about incoming people (hundreds of citizens returning each day and needing to be quarantined).

We currently have no restrictions internally. Which does worry me a little. In my opinion it is more important to make sure we don't have to go back into lockdown so that businesses have a chance to recover from the disruptions than for people to be able to go to football games and concerts. Of course entertainment, hospitality and tourism are businesses too, but they will, in any case, have a hard time recovering from not having the 3.8 million overseas visitors that we had in 2019, and nothing we do locally will fix that in a hurry.

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Re: Covid

Post by reiun » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:16 pm

With Trump leading the way, America’s coronavirus failures exposed by record surge in new infections

By Toluse Olorunnipa, Josh Dawsey and Yasmeen Abutaleb
June 27, 2020 at 5:38 p.m. EDT

Five months after the novel coronavirus was first detected in the United States, a record surge in new cases is the clearest sign yet of the country’s historic failure to control the virus — exposing a crisis in governance extending from the Oval Office to state capitals to city councils.

President Trump — who has repeatedly downplayed the virus, sidelined experts and misled Americans about its dangers and potential cures — now finds his presidency wracked by an inability to shepherd the country through its worst public health calamity in a century. The dysfunction that has long characterized Trump’s White House has been particularly ill-suited for a viral outbreak that requires precision, focus and steady leadership, according to public health experts, administration officials and lawmakers from both parties.

As case numbers began rising again, Trump has held rallies defying public health guidelines, mused about slowing down testing for the virus, criticized people wearing masks and embraced the racially offensive “kung flu” nickname for a disease that has killed at least 123,000 Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

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The data is in: Fox News may have kept millions from taking the coronavirus threat seriously

By Margaret Sullivan
Media columnist
June 28, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT

It’s another one of those Trump Era realities best described as unsurprising but nevertheless shocking.

Three serious research efforts have put numerical weight — yes, data-driven evidence — behind what many suspected all along: Americans who relied on Fox News, or similar right-wing sources, were duped as the coronavirus began its deadly spread.

Dangerously duped.

The studies “paint a picture of a media ecosystem that amplifies misinformation, entertains conspiracy theories and discourages audiences from taking concrete steps to protect themselves and others,” wrote my colleague Christopher Ingraham in an analysis last week.

Here’s the reality, now backed by numbers:

Those who relied on mainstream sources — the network evening newscasts or national newspapers that President Trump constantly blasts as “fake news” — got an accurate assessment of the pandemic’s risks. Those were the news consumers who were more likely to respond accordingly, protecting themselves and others against the disease that has now killed more than 123,000 in the United States with no end in sight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... story.html

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Re: Covid

Post by Presto Kensho » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:02 am

If Democrats are so much better than Trump on the Coronavirus, why did Andrew Cuomo deliberately send infected patients back to nursing homes, causing New York to be the worst state for the virus?

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Re: Covid

Post by SethRich » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:29 am

Greetings,
Presto Kensho wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:02 am
If Democrats are so much better than Trump on the Coronavirus, why did Andrew Cuomo deliberately send infected patients back to nursing homes, causing New York to be the worst state for the virus?
Because higher death tolls and manslaughter.

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Re: Covid

Post by reiun » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:53 pm

CDC feels pressure from Trump as rift grows over coronavirus response

By Lena H. Sun and Josh Dawsey
July 9, 2020 at 7:02 p.m. EDT


As the country enters a frightening phase of the pandemic with new daily cases surpassing 57,000 on Thursday, the CDC, the nation’s top public health agency, is coming under intense pressure from President Trump and his allies, who are downplaying the dangers in a bid to revive the economy ahead of the Nov. 3 presidential election. In a White House guided by the president’s instincts, rather than by evidence-based policy, the CDC finds itself forced constantly to backtrack or sidelined from pivotal decisions.

The latest clash between the White House and its top public health advisers erupted Wednesday, when the president slammed the agency’s recommendation that schools planning to reopen should keep students’ desks six feet apart, among other steps to reduce infection risks. In a tweet, Trump — who has demanded schools at all levels hold in-person classes this fall — called the advice “very tough & expensive.”

“While they want them open, they are asking schools to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!” Trump tweeted Wednesday. The CDC was already planning to issue new guidelines in the coming days. But Vice President Pence on Wednesday explicitly tied the effort to Trump’s ire.

“The president said today we just don’t want the guidance to be too tough,” Pence told reporters. “And that’s the reason next week the CDC is going to be issuing a new set of tools.”

Scientists at the CDC and former colleagues speak of deep frustration and low morale over its inability to fully share and explain scientific and medical information.

Speaking 'with an unfettered voice'

Alarmed at the agency’s diminished role, nearly 350 public health organizations sent a letter Tuesday to Azar urging him to advocate for the CDC. The agency must be allowed to speak based on the best available science “and with an unfettered voice,” said John Auerbach, president and chief executive of Trust for America’s Health, a public health nonprofit that led the effort.

Yasmeen Abutaleb, Alice Crites and John Hudson contributed to this report.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/t ... story.html
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